This is nothing new by Charedeim, they throw the words ימח שמו וזכרו around to whomever they don't like, and they did this to Harav Hagoen Avraham Yitzchok Kook z'L and other rabbanim that went against their twisted agendas! But now they hit a new low, cursing someone who is there to protect them so they can protest and disrupt the lives of other Jews!
I don't know who this R' Aryeh Yazdi is but Gehenim is not too hot for the likes of guys like him!
Breaking: Shas and the Moetzes Gedoiei Ha'Torah just put out a statement severely condemning Aryeh Yazdi
Defense Minister Yisrael Katz strongly condemned remarks made against IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir during Monday night’s anti-draft rally in Bnei Brak, declaring that “red lines must not be crossed.”
The comments were made by Rav Aryeh Yazdi during the mass protest against the arrest of Yeshiva Bochrim, where he referred to the IDF chief in harsh terms, saying, “The The IDF Chief of Staff, ימח שמו וזכרו”…
Katz responded by praising Zamir and the IDF’s leadership, stating, “Even when there are public disagreements, it is forbidden to cross red lines of incitement and attacks against those who bear the heavy responsibility for the security of the State of Israel.”
“The Chief of Staff and IDF commanders are leading our soldiers on every front in the defense of the State of Israel and the security of its citizens,” Katz added. “Any incitement against them is unacceptable, dangerous, and worthy of condemnation.”
The rally, attended by thousands, was held to protest the arrests of yeshiva bochurim over military conscription.
During the gathering, former Sephardic Chief Rabbi, Hagaon HaRav Yitzchak Yosef declared that if a yeshiva bochur is arrested, “the entire yeshiva should come outside the military prison and recite Selichos,” adding that “wars are won not because of Iron Dome, but because of Torah, the bochurim, and the avreichim.”
At the conclusion of the event, some participants chanted “Deri is a traitor” and “Deri, go home” as Shas MKs attended the rally. Rabbanim present called on the crowd to stop the chants.
A group of demonstrators later descended onto Route 4 in an apparent attempt to block traffic before police intervened.
The Tchebiner Rav zt"l quoted the Avnei Nezer, The term "Yimach Shemo" may not be used on Yidden even Reshaim.
ReplyDeleteDovid hamelech disagrees with you, yemach shemo is based on a pasuk on tehilim 109. The radak is clear that the perek is going on jews.
DeletePs Im speaking on your comment not this story which is a separate matter. But I strongly think that someone like trotsky yms deserves his yms
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DeleteChazal in Yalkut (תתסח) and Rashi (109:14) says it goes on Eisav, meaning goyim!
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Dovid Hamelech had an army!
And this is clear Sinas Chinom
DeleteDin if you could read into my comment that I was talking about the army when I explicitly said I wasn't only saying yms on a jewish rasha. I guess turnabout is fair play.
Deleteyou clearly oppose saying yms on jew like Stella Goldschlag yms. And since you read falsely into my comment despite my explicitly saying against what you said, I will read into your opposition comment, that you dont just oppose saying yms on rishayim that you might even want to give someone like her laudatory titles after all viamach kula tzadikim.
"I strongly think that someone like trotsky yms deserves his yms"
ReplyDeleteAccording to most Poskim, HAD TROTSKY DIED WITHOUT CHILDREN HIS WIFE WOULD NEED CHALITZA BECAUSE THE TORAH SAYS ולא ימח שמו
Trotskys wife was a shiksa no rabbi would have said that.
DeleteThe mishna and gemara in Yuma based on mishlay is very clear to mention the rishayim and shem rishayim yirkav immediately after. It is clearly going on jews. There is no question that the 4 recent rishayim (trotsky, spira, lander, and jacobs yms) i mentioned yms on were much worse that those the mishna said shem rishayim on. Even if claiming 3 of them were tinik shenishba and the 4th feared the nazis those 4 all went (or currently still) way beyond just the basic evil
DeleteEmailim may be aware he is trying to force a daas yochid on everyone. There are some Poilisher Chassidim who go with the shita he cites which is really a stretch because they even apply it to Meshumodim. But it is klor from all over the sifrei Kadmonim that Meshumodim are called Ymach Shmom Vezichrom
ReplyDeleteAnother one whose father should have kept his shmekele in his pants
ReplyDelete1. Im bringing a proof a rishon says you can say yms this is clear and the fact that others say it is going on eisav (and you missed maar mekomos saying it is going on eisav) is 100% irrelevant. The fact is that the radak says yms goes on jewish rishayim.
ReplyDelete2. The fact that other say it is going on eisav does NOT mean they disagree that one can say yms on a jewish rasha. Their explanation of the pesukim is just not proof you can say it on a rasha.
3. So we have rishonim saying you can say yms on a rasha and you have as far as im aware of none who say you can't.
4. Im explicitly stated im not discussing saying yms on this person. So your dovid had an army is completely irrelevant. I know dovid had an army so what? that has nothing to do with saying yms on Leon trotsky?
5. There are many rabbis who is have seen say yms on jewish rishayim including chasidish rishayim for example I saw a rabbi who survived krakow who said yms on the chasidisher head of Krakow jewish nazi police simcha spyra yms, who was responsible for numerous jewish deaths.
6. Many jews throughout the Doros referred to someone whose initials were yms as yms. You saying they were all wrong?
Ps: After the behavior of the charadim these past few months im strongly in favor of drafting every rioter just to give these rioters discipline for their own good is good enough reason to draft them regardless of any other considerations. They should be sent to penal units like armies used to have.
Do you not agree that someone like Brad lander doesnt deserve a yms? How about congresswoman Sarah jacobs who is marrying the grand son of the 72 Olympic murders mastermind?
You yourself said on jews like neturai karta yemach shemo, so why are you giving me trouble for saying it on trotsky. You agree with me it is 100% allowed to say yemach shemo on jews.
ReplyDeletehttps://dusiznies.blogspot.com/2024/01/yemach-shemonics-march-thru-muslim.html
So either you were wrong to say it on nk or I am correct there is nothing wrong to say it on rishayim. Which was my only real point (muter to say yms on a jew) that dovid hamelech said it on jewish rishayim according to the radak.
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DeleteYes I said that Neturei-Karta the branch of Satmar , one can say YM"S beshem umalchus! absolutely!
This article is about a Rosh Yeshiva whose Yeshiva got over 600,000 shekel from the Medina last year alone and he curses by saying YM"S on Zamir who is a shomer torah Umitzvois!
Those who curse are cursed themselves!
But my comment which you argued on, was not on the article, but a comment by EMAILIM BATORAH who said no saying yms on a jew. I explicitly stated im not discussing saying yms on this person, but only the principal stated by "EMAILIM BATORAH" that no yms on any jew which includes nk. You seem to agree with me so dont attack my comment.
DeleteThere is nothing wrong with saying yms on jewish rishayim.