What this film left out were the new Chareidim who were "oiker" a mitzvas esseh De'orisah of Yishuv Eretz Yisrael Bizman Hazeh, according to most Rishoinim! Certainly all hold that it is a Mitzva de'rabanan! According to the Chazon Ish who lived in the times of Ben Gurion, all Chiloim are in the category of "tinuk sh'nishba" The ones "denying Hashem's existence" are the Chutz Le'aaretz Rabbanim and RY that are not "goiis" this mitzva at all!
Tuchis on fire UHN hoizen The Chazon Ish never qualified what a tinuk shenishba is or was, he lived during the days of the early Zionists led by Ben Gurion and that's who he was referring to! There is no indication anywhere or in any of the BIOs that he meant only those "without a chinuch" You made that up? Didn't you? Shame on you! Liar!!
I find it humorous that Charedim will the words of their very "idols" like the Chazon Ish and twist it to fit their own hashkafas. If they think that their own Torah leaders are not extreme enough, they will then wait till they die and then say that they didn't really mean it. We are all aware of this perverted game!
How idiotic of you! The very definition of tinok shenishba means someone whose ruchniyus was stunted because from the time he was a little child he was deprived of chinuch! Any fool can understand that without a special pirush from the Chazon Ish or anyone else. Only DIN needs a tutorial. Tinok shenishba for Idiots book coming soon. Special discount for DIN & his tiny handful of sycophant followers who are the only ones who could use a za book
Chareidie Liars Iz Nisht Nies Listen troll YOU are the one who was learning "pshat" in the Chazon Ish! Everyone else knows that the Chazon Ish said that in 1950 when the Zionists were in control of the country, that ALL CHILONIM are in the category of "Tinuk Shenishba" It was your mechanchim that waited until he was dead that they with a shoehorn, tried saying that that is not what he meant!
They did that with Rav Shach too who said and wrote that only those whose "Torah is Umnoso gets a ptur from the army" everyone else serves!
When Rav Shreinman had the nerve to say that if one works, one needs to serve in the IDF, they bused in thousands on a Motzei Shabbos in front of the Atrium on Route 59 where he was speaking, and shouted "Yemach Shmo" when he walked out!
Chareidie's warped hashkafa are now a cancer that has metastasized in Klall Yisrael and it must be obliterated ASAP You are a product of this contagious sickness! ובערת הרע מקרבך
It is not Erev Rav issue but a similar one. Virtually all militantly anti-Israel Jews are also anti Judaism as a religion started on Har Sinai The anti-Israel Jews are desperate to assimilate. The highest form of assimilation is to assimilate to those who want to annihilate the Jews. The best way to show gentiles that you're not a "tribal Jew" is to become an anti-Jew.
2:41 You write that " Virtually all militantly anti-Israel Jews are also anti-Judaism as a religion started on Har Sinai"
I totally agree, I have a solution
Let's get all Yeshiva boys into the army and throw out the chilonim, I'm all for that!
By the way, Charedi culture is very far from Torah MeSinai, don't get me started! Today we have "Tzadsikim" that say that the miracles that happened in 1948, 1967 and now the 12 day war are all from Satan, the Devil! Todays "tzaddikim" do not believe that Hashem does any miracles for Jews that don't look like them! This is a cancer that has metastasized in the Charedie culture and must be uprooted ASAP ובערת הרע בקרבך
Powerful stuff.
ReplyDeleteNot afraid to name names.
How can DIN present this with a straight face when he shills for other Erev Ravniks - the Zionist figures who deny Hashem’s existence??!!
ReplyDeleteWhat this film left out were the new Chareidim who were "oiker" a mitzvas esseh De'orisah of Yishuv Eretz Yisrael Bizman Hazeh, according to most Rishoinim! Certainly all hold that it is a Mitzva de'rabanan!
DeleteAccording to the Chazon Ish who lived in the times of Ben Gurion, all Chiloim are in the category of "tinuk sh'nishba"
The ones "denying Hashem's existence" are the Chutz Le'aaretz Rabbanim and RY that are not "goiis" this mitzva at all!
Probably left out soros so they don't get sued
ReplyDeleteThe Chazon Ish never said nishba on your favorite atheists *who had a chinuch* & you know it!
ReplyDeleteTuchis on fire UHN hoizen
DeleteThe Chazon Ish never qualified what a tinuk shenishba is or was, he lived during the days of the early Zionists led by Ben Gurion and that's who he was referring to! There is no indication anywhere or in any of the BIOs that he meant only those "without a chinuch"
You made that up? Didn't you?
Shame on you! Liar!!
I find it humorous that Charedim will the words of their very "idols" like the Chazon Ish and twist it to fit their own hashkafas. If they think that their own Torah leaders are not extreme enough, they will then wait till they die and then say that they didn't really mean it.
DeleteWe are all aware of this perverted game!
How idiotic of you! The very definition of tinok shenishba means someone whose ruchniyus was stunted because from the time he was a little child he was deprived of chinuch! Any fool can understand that without a special pirush from the Chazon Ish or anyone else. Only DIN needs a tutorial. Tinok shenishba for Idiots book coming soon. Special discount for DIN & his tiny handful of sycophant followers who are the only ones who could use a za book
ReplyDeleteChareidie Liars Iz Nisht Nies
DeleteListen troll
YOU are the one who was learning "pshat" in the Chazon Ish!
Everyone else knows that the Chazon Ish said that in 1950 when the Zionists were in control of the country, that ALL CHILONIM are in the category of "Tinuk Shenishba"
It was your mechanchim that waited until he was dead that they with a shoehorn, tried saying that that is not what he meant!
They did that with Rav Shach too who said and wrote that only those whose "Torah is Umnoso gets a ptur from the army" everyone else serves!
When Rav Shreinman had the nerve to say that if one works, one needs to serve in the IDF, they bused in thousands on a Motzei Shabbos in front of the Atrium on Route 59 where he was speaking, and shouted "Yemach Shmo" when he walked out!
Chareidie's warped hashkafa are now a cancer that has metastasized in Klall Yisrael and it must be obliterated ASAP
You are a product of this contagious sickness!
ובערת הרע מקרבך
It is not Erev Rav issue but a similar one. Virtually all militantly anti-Israel Jews are also anti Judaism as a religion started on Har Sinai The anti-Israel Jews are desperate to assimilate. The highest form of assimilation is to assimilate to those who want to annihilate the Jews. The best way to show gentiles that you're not a "tribal Jew" is to become an anti-Jew.
ReplyDelete2:41
DeleteYou write that " Virtually all militantly anti-Israel Jews are also anti-Judaism as a religion started on Har Sinai"
I totally agree, I have a solution
Let's get all Yeshiva boys into the army and throw out the chilonim, I'm all for that!
By the way, Charedi culture is very far from Torah MeSinai, don't get me started!
Today we have "Tzadsikim" that say that the miracles that happened in 1948, 1967 and now the 12 day war are all from Satan, the Devil! Todays "tzaddikim" do not believe that Hashem does any miracles for Jews that don't look like them!
This is a cancer that has metastasized in the Charedie culture and must be uprooted ASAP
ובערת הרע בקרבך