tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post7701449024274775714..comments2024-03-29T03:23:34.415+03:00Comments on DUS IZ NIES !! Rare View...: Moshe Gavriel Binkovitch a Sofer Stam from Modi'in Illit -Goes "Off the Derech" at Age 60Dusiznieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-61573687453545232132017-08-15T01:23:40.433+03:002017-08-15T01:23:40.433+03:00He looks like Ben Kingsley...He actually looks hap...He looks like Ben Kingsley...He actually looks happyElyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13686234102666049937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-7723483344996052662017-08-11T23:24:31.666+03:002017-08-11T23:24:31.666+03:00He actually looks great .Just as BTs are nuts so a...He actually looks great .Just as BTs are nuts so are OTD s ,anyone that changes in essence who they are & blame the behavior of others have other issues .I admit he looks great & maybe he wants to enjoy life ,who knows .It is true that their is a huge amount of fallacy among Frum people but still you go along with the program as that is in essence who you are .lawrencemiamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00544629997451166622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-8629116411262380532017-08-10T14:40:22.681+03:002017-08-10T14:40:22.681+03:00Anyone who says that he's considering leaving ...Anyone who says that he's considering leaving or will leave religion because of some bad apples is a flat out liar. If that were the case, then Jews would have left religion after Korach, Spies, kings of Israel, corrupt kohanim during the 2nd bet hamakdash and etc, etc.<br /> A rational honest Jew knows tht G-D is also angry with these people, and we are in galut because of things that we do that are against the Torah and G-D's will.<br /> Wii any of you consider abandoning rules of civilization , steal, murder, behave like a criminals because there are some who do that, or will you honestly say that these people don<br />t represent the foundation of values and rules of law.<br /> You're liars is what you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-9363341551980621702017-08-10T10:56:35.794+03:002017-08-10T10:56:35.794+03:00What happened to his wife and kids and grandchildr...What happened to his wife and kids and grandchildren<br />did his went along or dumped him rlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-72299361113486287612017-08-10T07:18:57.330+03:002017-08-10T07:18:57.330+03:00Menachem moshe klein. said...
He can never ha...Menachem moshe klein. said...<br /><br /> He can never have true happiness. ..He has a totaly false happiness going against Hasham ...I'm sure the whole clal yisroel is very hurt and shocked.<br /><br /> August 6, 2017 at 10:28 PM<br /><br /><br />"Hasham"?<br /><br />Do you realize how funny that is?Chafraud-Depravitchhttps://chafrauddepravitch.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-85961237105588825602017-08-10T07:15:19.562+03:002017-08-10T07:15:19.562+03:00Mordechai Minzer said...
"Not unusual for so...Mordechai Minzer said...<br /><br />"Not unusual for some Baalei Teshuvah to go back to their old lifestyle."<br /><br />Well, duh! They come to Haredistan with a knowledge of the outside. They have what to compare to. And when the false piety of ultra-Orthodox Judaism is revealed, obviously the best option is to get out of it... to some degree or another. That often includes going back to aspects of a life they KNOW is better than "haredism."<br /><br /><br />Sometimes people try stupid stuff, like going from civilized to superstitious haredi primitive. They wise up after a while. Sometimes it takes a long while. And they move on to what works for them. Not all abandon their belief in God nor reject the positives they've found while observant, nor even abandon all observance. Not all cases are 180's. But some aspects of Ultra-Orthodox Judaism are toxic. And most will distance themselves from that which the find to be so.<br /><br />Perhaps some BTs were looking for something that haredi contrived Judaism can't offer. Maybe a connection to God, happiness, contentment, or something like that.<br /><br />Are you a BT? If not, you have no foundation of knowledge on which to stand and judge.<br /><br />"The Sifrei Torah which he had written are Kosher as they were written according to Halacha by a Jewish male whom had a bris milah, in Prewar Europe many Sifrei Torah were written by people alout worse than him. and in Prewar Russia many Sifrei Torah were written by Woman. The Torahs owners should give them in to a Sofer to have them computer checked (Mahgiah) with the latest software and correct all the findings.<br /> However all of the Tefillin and Mezuzahs which he had written are assumed Not Kosher and should be replaced as they must be written "kisidrun" in order. A good percentage of mezuzos and Tefilin parshios which are written go to Shaimos waste as it is not permitted to go back and correct any errors; but we assume that he did not waste anything and he had gone back and corrected Mezuzos and Tefillin Parshios which is not permitted."<br /><br />August 9, 2017 at 3:11 PM<br /><br />Ah, is that the halacha determined by ASSUMPTIONS and taken to the point of idiocy game I see played?<br /><br />We can ASSUME all of these unknown women went to the mikveh and recited the appropriate bracha before embarking on their writing, right? All kosher; ink, stitching materials, the tools used? Let's just ASSUME so of these "Woman"... who you characterize as "worse than him." <br />("many Sifrei Torah were written by people alout worse than him. and in Prewar Russia many Sifrei Torah were written by Woman.")<br /><br />But in the case of this guy, let's ASSUME the worst of his tefillin and mezuzahs, and judge him negatively (for God's sake, of course).<br /><br />Ridiculous! Absurd!<br /><br />He was sincere when he decided to write them. He was sincere when he decided NOT to write them. At least he doesn't live a lie and play the part of pious charlatan like some do.<br /><br />But had he not decided to abandon the religious facade, and instead played the part insincerely, then you could continue to ASSUME that the tefillin sold by the so-called frum "rabbi" who obtained them through a form of THEFT are kosher, right?<br /><br />My kiruv rabbi told me that "religion is not stupid." He was wrong. Often times, it is.<br /><br /><br />Chafraud-Depravitchhttps://chafrauddepravitch.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-77432349158872143392017-08-10T03:57:02.150+03:002017-08-10T03:57:02.150+03:00Yossi said...
"he's a looser (now at age... Yossi said...<br /><br />"he's a looser (now at age 60, if he does not belief, he lost his prime fun years)<br />a pitty"<br /><br />August 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM<br /><br /><br />At age 60 (hopefully) one generally isn't looking for 'fun' as much as happiness. They are different things in case you were not aware.<br />He's not thrill-seeking. He's pursuing a life of greater truth. The liars among him showed him that the haredi lifestyle (and it is merely a lifestyle) isn't necessarily a life of truth.<br /><br />And I believe the word you're looking for is "loser" not "looser."<br />It's really unbecoming (though somewhat amusing) when the high horse riding, uber-religious types try to put someone down, and can't even spell the insult correctly.Chafraud-Depravitchhttps://chafrauddepravitch.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-47905839061768538092017-08-10T03:22:09.666+03:002017-08-10T03:22:09.666+03:00Yehuda, ask me any question that you struggled wit...Yehuda, ask me any question that you struggled with. AishKodeshhttp://achsameach.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-45073320312521042352017-08-10T01:50:27.422+03:002017-08-10T01:50:27.422+03:00Baldy looks better with a hat and full beard.Baldy looks better with a hat and full beard.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04818966055746927150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-7639200484358176992017-08-09T23:06:41.718+03:002017-08-09T23:06:41.718+03:00most but not all are corrupt, hashem wasnt isnt an...most but not all are corrupt, hashem wasnt isnt and will not be,<br />he's a looser (now at age 60, if he does not belief, he lost his prime fun years) <br />a pittyYossihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09768228989071746948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-58295307628404089412017-08-09T22:11:49.299+03:002017-08-09T22:11:49.299+03:00Not unusual for some Baalei Teshuvah to go back to...Not unusual for some Baalei Teshuvah to go back to their old lifestyle.<br />The Sifrei Torah which he had written are Kosher as they were written according to Halacha by a Jewish male whom had a bris milah, in Prewar Europe many Sifrei Torah were written by people alout worse than him. and in Prewar Russia many Sifrei Torah were written by Woman. The Torahs owners should give them in to a Sofer to have them computer checked (Mahgiah) with the latest software and correct all the findings.<br />However all of the Tefillin and Mezuzahs which he had written are assumed Not Kosher and should be replaced as they must be written "kisidrun" in order. A good percentage of mezuzos and Tefilin parshios which are written go to Shaimos waste as it is not permitted to go back and correct any errors; but we assume that he did not waste anything and he had gone back and corrected Mezuzos and Tefillin Parshios which is not permitted.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15514829959801325601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-74416859373236186172017-08-09T16:45:23.388+03:002017-08-09T16:45:23.388+03:00I am also a Rabbi of many years who left Judaism. ...I am also a Rabbi of many years who left Judaism. I have a hard time believing that someone of that age and stature threw off religion because he was taken advantage of in such a way (despite how distasteful it was). Myself personally it wasn't an easy process at all. For years I struggled to prove Judaism true. I was very happy being observant (and am still raising my family as frum Yidden). But I was in a position where people would present their questions to me and I could not lie to them, I beleived honestly and wholeheartedly that there would be satisfactory answers to resolve the plethora of issues that were presented to me. I spoke to Gedolim, experts, Kiruv professionals etc. But as time progressed the reality that the Torah was written by men set in. I still didn't give up, I desperately wanted it to be true but the ground kept on shrinking. The best my colleagues, and anyone else I spoke to, were able to muster up when I delved past the knee jerk Kiruv responses and showed how shallow they are and the overwhelming evidence that presented that the Torah was not divine was them throwing up their arms and saying one must just have faith. So I did for years, but when the creeping suspicion grows that you're living a lie it's not easy just to brush my it off and keep your eyes tightly closed. Eventually after struggling over this for years the reality became crystal clear to me. In any case not much has changed, I still live in the frum world, still dress and act the part but I know inside that it's not true.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14187889578586213969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-45156642758167822622017-08-09T02:20:50.895+03:002017-08-09T02:20:50.895+03:00How many Binkovitches are the YSV Monsey Board &am...How many Binkovitches are the YSV Monsey Board & their puppet Frankel going to create when they leave kids with no yeshiva and no girls school to attend?<br /><br />The gazlonim say they run a "private" yeshiva (that they STOLE from the Greenbaums) & therefore can do what they want.<br /><br />The Gedolim have said they are now perpetrating a 2nd gzailah to steal the right of kids to be in a yeshiva.<br /><br />They're corrupt & cruel. Look into the histories of some of the Board members.Yeshiva of Bling Valleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-15734159465635892872017-08-09T01:29:55.732+03:002017-08-09T01:29:55.732+03:00"Thank G-D I never bought tefilin from him. H..."Thank G-D I never bought tefilin from him. He was obviously a kofer all along. He finally found a stupid retard reason to go public.<br />Even my 7 year old would laugh at such a dumb excuse!"<br /><br />August 6, 2017 at 8:27 PM<br /><br /><br /><br />I told my son about this story, and explained to him why this guy's tefillin were better than some pair cranked out for commercial profit.<br /><br />His intentions while writing these were purer than some haredi huckster making them purely for profit (not to mention the liar who duped him).<br />Perhaps you'd prefer the finest set written by a very 'still on the derech' child molester, liar, or thief.Chafraud-Depravitchhttps://chafrauddepravitch.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-6369072281918475972017-08-09T01:11:52.244+03:002017-08-09T01:11:52.244+03:00alexander shekhtman,
1. he got lied to regarding ...alexander shekhtman,<br /><br />1. he got lied to regarding holy objects<br />2. the tefillin was never given to the poor families it was meant to go to<br />3. the whole thing was perpetrated by a bigger rabbi he respected.<br /><br />And those are three biggies... heavy stuff to a sincere, well-meaning soul.<br />It's a shame these cases often end up with a disregard for God too. <br /><br />I've experienced similar, but still teach my children a love for God.<br />I won't mind if they throw away a lot of yeshiva nonsense (they get a balance at home to show them it's okay to do so). But we teach them God is real. One can be without Judaism, especially the freaky hybrid its become today. But one can never be without God. You can't be outside or separate from God, and can never really be 'off the derech' no matter what someone's dogma says about it.Chafraud-Depravitchhttps://chafrauddepravitch.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-69243470332581990022017-08-09T00:48:08.190+03:002017-08-09T00:48:08.190+03:001:53
And why did you "conveniently leave out ...1:53<br />And why did you "conveniently leave out that he learned in Ponovitz when Rav Shach z"l was Rosh Yeshiva?<br />I left out his background because I don't think it changes any part of the story ....but you seem to think that the fact that he was a "BT" that somehow now it makes sense!<br />The ones going off the ferech are by in large FFBs!Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-66535259376978386302017-08-09T00:41:29.097+03:002017-08-09T00:41:29.097+03:00Leo, you said: This is his way of telling that rab...Leo, you said: This is his way of telling that rabbi that he defrauded him. He could have gone to din torah or even the court to straighten things he might have gotten his money back. <br /><br />I think getting his money back is not the issue. Most likely he was well off and could not care less about the money he lost. The real issue is that <br />1. he got lied to regarding holy objects<br />2. the tefillin was never given to the poor families it was meant to go to<br />3. the whole thing was perpetrated by a bigger rabbi he respected<br /><br />I also thought about going off the derech every time I see FFB rabbis behaving worse than the average goy in the streets of the U.S. Now that I am reading it, it makes me mistrust all frum people being frum myself. I recently had a very negative experience with a BT rabbi that should have known better, but chose to take money instead of standing up for justice.Alex S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12137240134929677203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-60672349175329815192017-08-09T00:34:27.973+03:002017-08-09T00:34:27.973+03:00What's remarkable is how much happier he looks...What's remarkable is how much happier he looks.<br /><br />11:59 PM'<br />A bad pun is hardly a reason to go back to a toxic lifestyle among toxic people.<br /><br />Criminal rabbis who pocket a sofer's hard earned pay. It's lying. It's stealing. It's without a concern for his fellow Jew. It's a complete fraud on so many levels, rendering their example of Torah observance a complete joke.<br /><br />I'd bet the Torah this so-called "rabbi" raises high for hagbah was obtained by some form of theft as well. What a knee slapper! Like holding up two rolls of toilet paper! 'These are the laws that I completely disregard!'<br /><br />Where do I sign up?<br />Worry not. There's little chance that someone who wakes up to the dishonesty will go back to living the lie that religion is related to righteousness.Chafraud-Depravitchhttps://chafrauddepravitch.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-46068837729101704162017-08-08T21:01:07.847+03:002017-08-08T21:01:07.847+03:00or a Rebbitzinor a RebbitzinAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14049647118381011402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-67365997966391079242017-08-08T20:53:14.888+03:002017-08-08T20:53:14.888+03:00Read the entire article (as someone posted the lin...Read the entire article (as someone posted the link above) in Hebrew, and you will learn a lot of things that were conveniently left out on here.<br />a) He was originally a baal tshuva<br />b) He was divorced 3 times<br />c) The tefilin story didn't happen in Kiryat Sefer<br />d) He has lived in many communities and keeps on moving<br /><br />So we are obviously not talking about a run-of-the-mill frum person who decided at 60 to go off. He is obviously a complicated and confused person who cannot find inner happiness.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12479473558866800796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-64398073079140525902017-08-08T18:28:51.981+03:002017-08-08T18:28:51.981+03:00It's still such a shame. Individualy, we must...It's still such a shame. Individualy, we must take the message of this sad story and all focus on "staying on the Derech" -- not just as a Klal, but with all the peratim too.<br /><br />The Chofetz Chaim זצ"ל gave a mashal about this. Here is the link to the inspiring clip. https://youtu.be/MjP9aQtfjrg.AishKodeshhttp://achsameach.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-87746639166953669212017-08-08T17:46:14.743+03:002017-08-08T17:46:14.743+03:00refuah shleimah for this idiot!!!
refuah shleimah for this idiot!!!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-26027569029881356342017-08-08T14:43:48.296+03:002017-08-08T14:43:48.296+03:00Originally he came from a non religious home becam...Originally he came from a non religious home became a BAL TSHUVAH and for various reasons decided he doesn't believe anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-18510670336038530292017-08-08T06:59:20.064+03:002017-08-08T06:59:20.064+03:00"Chafraud-Depravitch"
Seriously?
You bet..."Chafraud-Depravitch"<br />Seriously?<br />You better be careful. Any more bad puns and you're going to get people so disgusted that they'll go back ON the derech!<br />Aralphieboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622329598439905076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-63808863779979808682017-08-08T02:48:20.409+03:002017-08-08T02:48:20.409+03:00Lol, never to late to find the truthLol, never to late to find the truthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com