tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post694616119227169005..comments2024-03-28T17:05:31.717+02:00Comments on DUS IZ NIES !! Rare View...: Satmarism vs Zionism Part 3 .... "Israeli Flag is Avoda Zara"Dusiznieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-80795891030000372882017-02-22T23:36:43.752+02:002017-02-22T23:36:43.752+02:00That UGLY old geezer is an Avodah Zara
He saved hi...That UGLY old geezer is an Avodah Zara<br />He saved his own skin under the "Zionist" flag and left most of his deranged followers to die in the holocaust.<br />But then again he was known as a rabble rouser in his younger years as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-6897841022662361462014-09-16T18:52:16.145+03:002014-09-16T18:52:16.145+03:00Wow!!!!! Wow!!!!!, am happy to see that the truth ...Wow!!!!! Wow!!!!!, am happy to see that the truth still reigns in these trying times, more power to these commentators, who stick to the true Torah values, & dont change the Torah to adapt to the latest fad, the latest style, or the newest 'rabbis' whim, this blog was primarily established, obviously, to make the owner feel good about himself, having abandoned many important mitzvos, feeling guilty about that, thinking that criticizing the satmar-litvish-lakewood-brisk etc. Torah true Jews, will sooth his guilty feelings, big mistake, its like putting a small bandaid over a hemmoraging wound.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-47729591775802615202014-09-16T05:18:24.096+03:002014-09-16T05:18:24.096+03:00Well said, derby is clearly losing the few people ...Well said, derby is clearly losing the few people who gave him the benefit of the doubt, gam evil macharish chacham yechashev, smart words from the 'chacham mikol Adam', shlomo hamelech, derby would do himself a big favor, if he would heed those words. Hey nobody but NOBODY is being fooled by your biased prejudiced rantings, the hate you have to toras emes is so obvious, remaining quiet is your only option.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-63053242143369206492014-09-15T10:24:15.068+03:002014-09-15T10:24:15.068+03:00Derby is on a MISSION, (missionary?), his anti sat...Derby is on a MISSION, (missionary?), his anti satmar rantings aren't working aint convincing anyone, on the contrary, its showing to even those few (if there are even a few), that haven't abandoned him, that he is a cheap selfish biased kal shebekalim, who will do anything and this includes ANYTHING, to try to save his kefira deos, from being seen as what they really are, he stoops down to the sewer, knowingly, just to save face. its not working, we ALL see through you, your agenda, of seeing no wrongs by reshaim, & at the same time only seeing evil by tzaddikim. you're so laughingly transparent, you are a spoiled selfish immoral koifer, and a cheap one at that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-50760078253490124532014-09-14T20:13:31.267+03:002014-09-14T20:13:31.267+03:00A good person does NOT feed a hungry person of any...A good person does NOT feed a hungry person of any kind. A good person does NOT feed the IS journalist beheader, no matter how hungry he is and no matter how he begs for food. Nor does a good person feed the enemies of Hashem for whom the rule lo maalin applies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-12753288992115518832014-09-14T20:09:10.712+03:002014-09-14T20:09:10.712+03:00Are you folks deliberately missing my point? Is th...Are you folks deliberately missing my point? Is this the way of your dishonest demagoguery? Or are you folks simply not bright enough to follow a conversation and understand what's being said?<br /><br />I was not telling an impressive story. If I wanted to impress about The Satmar Rebbe, there are plenty of impressive stories of true Mesiras Nefesh. I was showing that The Rebbe did not really consider Zionists Ovdei avoda zara in the halachic sense, because he would not have given tzedaka to a person that the halacha clearly dictates lo maalin. So when he used extreme language, it was not meant in the literal sense. He did not really mean to say that it is halachically avoda zara. We all understood what he meant, and so does anybody with even the slightest intelligence. The blog owner here knows this and so do most of the readers. You are deliberately taking his words out of their context and intended meaning, in order to build your case against him. <br /><br /> Taking out of contextnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-32704343955916897002014-09-14T15:15:41.007+03:002014-09-14T15:15:41.007+03:00Clarification:
Of course, halchically, the gentle...Clarification:<br /><br />Of course, halchically, the gentleman may even drink his prune juice before feeding his Chihuahua, but this morning due to constipation issues, he decided to have it with his cereal along with some pot cheese.<br />So please spare stories and gasping ga-ga-swooning little meisalach about who drank what in presence of which obese gabboim.<br /><br />the Derby... do they still sell pot cheese?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-57184367191897705202014-09-14T13:37:30.080+03:002014-09-14T13:37:30.080+03:00You're baking a creamy, 4-layered bar mitzvah ...You're baking a creamy, 4-layered bar mitzvah cake with its chocolate tfillin out of a box of Goodman's lukshen.<br /><br />Minim, mordim, Zionists,halacha, someone asked him,Baal Chesed, lo maalin, etc. etc etc.<br /> Not only does a good person feed a hungry human being of ANY kind, but as you know, feed his pony even before he sits down to his Cheerios and prune juice at breakfast.<br /> Now let me tell you a story about my mother who was nobody's rebetzin and didn't know from mordim and mumars from any end.<br /><br /> Years ago at a bungalow colony ( I was there at that moment), a collector showed up, mom who was just finishing making latkes gave him some tzeddakah. On his way out, he said something about how good it smells. Getting the hint, mom sat him down and gave him a plateful of hot latkes.<br /> To her dying day, she never knew if he was a chassid, litvak, Zionist, mumar, Amish,or poet.<br /> No tarrarram...No pshetlach, no toileh'lech, no questions, no nothing. Had I not been there, I never would've even known this happened.<br />My father, on the other hand, would sometimes steal a dollar from his meager earnings and sneak it to a poor person w/o my mom knowing. No nosy question asking gabboim as to why.<br />I don't need stories that don't impress. I have my role models.<br /> Myriads of readers , I'm sure, have their own experiences too. Thanks anyway.<br /><br />the Derby<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-40280821425870923252014-09-14T05:46:27.242+03:002014-09-14T05:46:27.242+03:00Dusiznies
Here you revert to sarcasm and change t...Dusiznies<br /><br />Here you revert to sarcasm and change the subject to avoid the point of discussion. I made my point clearly. Admit please.Taking out of contextnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-17934646360096053432014-09-14T05:41:54.661+03:002014-09-14T05:41:54.661+03:00To 10:37
I know Goyishe doctors and nurses that tr...To 10:37<br />I know Goyishe doctors and nurses that treat Jews, that's also chesed!<br />You say the Rebbe helped Zionists?<br />How many Zionists help his chassidim in Bnei Brak? HMMMMM?<br />And didn't the Zionists save his life by giving him a seat on the train that saved his life? <br />Oh... he did chesed with a Zionist? I'm impressed ... he helped another Jew!<br />Crazy stuff here!Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-18827681143844205412014-09-14T05:37:06.367+03:002014-09-14T05:37:06.367+03:00It's not fiction. It's well known by every...It's not fiction. It's well known by everyone who is in the know about The Satmar Rebbe that he did tremendous Chesed to any Jew including Zionists. You call it fiction because it makes you more comfortable to do so, because it allows you to maintain your hatred against this denomination of our Jewish brothers. But the Satmar Rebbe, while he was very sharp and outspoken about his position, treated every Jew with care and love, even Zionist. Even while he was fighting them fiercely about their position, he still treated them with love and mercy on a personal level. <br /><br />You write 'So aZionist is a mumar too and halachically you have to be morid him'. That's exactly the opposite of what I said. Your hatred is so important for you to hold on to, that you will shamelessly twist my words in public in order to do so.Taking out of contextnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-49466716047772365652014-09-14T03:33:04.340+03:002014-09-14T03:33:04.340+03:00very impressive that he gave a hungry Jew to eat, ...very impressive that he gave a hungry Jew to eat, something we am haratzim never would have thought of.<br />So aZionist is a mumar too and halachically you have to be morid him , something we amharatzim also didn't know.<br /> Your story is all fiction .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-21887047624643609272014-09-12T23:18:34.573+03:002014-09-12T23:18:34.573+03:00Dusiznies
You show me that he meant it literally b...Dusiznies<br />You show me that he meant it literally by quoting more words which were meant in the same way as these were. <br /><br />I know of an instance where a known outspoken Zionist came to the Rebbe in dire need of money, so knowing that the Rebbe was a very big Baal chesed, broke his pride. The Rebbe helped him with a large sum of money. When someone asked the Rebbe why he acted with such compassion toward this Zionist who mocks his words regularly, he answered Essen Kimt Em (food he deserves) Now the Rebbe knew the Halacha that Minim are Moridin Velo Maalin, and even a simple Mumar is Lo Maalin, so obviously he did not consider this person to be that Halachically even though he was an outspoken Zionist.Taking out of contextnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-69801205483772190402014-09-12T17:23:25.773+03:002014-09-12T17:23:25.773+03:00To 11:02
The rabbi paskened le'halacha that Zi...To 11:02<br />The rabbi paskened le'halacha that Zionism and the flag are avoda Zara in every respect<br />I will show you that , as I continue my series of<br />satmerism vs Zionism Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-16798874273638827942014-09-12T15:40:26.352+03:002014-09-12T15:40:26.352+03:00פרק יא משנה יא. חכמים הזהרו בדבריכםפרק יא משנה יא. חכמים הזהרו בדבריכםAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-29558541620647271302014-09-12T10:53:53.890+03:002014-09-12T10:53:53.890+03:00so what's literal @ what's not?
Are you hi...so what's literal @ what's not?<br />Are you his Rashi?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-38146889226981414082014-09-12T06:02:58.197+03:002014-09-12T06:02:58.197+03:00Just for the sake of clarity and an honest underst...Just for the sake of clarity and an honest understanding of the Rebbe's words. The Rebbe is from a culture very different from the culture of the blog owner and readers. The language is different as you yourself pointed out with the word geshmadt. It is the rebbe's style, and because of the nature of the mama lushon and culture of his flock, that he spoke with exaggerated terms. His people knew what he meant, which words are to be take literally, which figuratively, and which with understanding that he is using extreme words. It's like when a speaker screams for the sake of drama. You are taking his words out of context. He was certainly against Zionism in a big way, but the term Avoda Zara was certainly not meant in the literal Halachic sense by any stretch of the imagination. His followers know that and even you know it too.Taking out of contextnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-42956669345893512572014-09-12T03:39:02.500+03:002014-09-12T03:39:02.500+03:00"...Whoever thinks like this (to fly the flag...<br />"...Whoever thinks like this (to fly the flag) is not a Jew!..."<br /><br /> Really !<br />My Torah says one born of a Jewish mother is a Jew.<br />My little Israeli flag , along with the American flag on my desk, waves in the breeze from the nearby open window.<br /> Oh, by the way, my mother was Jewish.<br /><br /> The Israeli flag... Long may it wave...<br /><br />the Derby... Manhigim, please step forward. The fanatics are at the gates. Help !!<br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com