tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post2842454911247935017..comments2024-03-29T14:21:42.121+03:00Comments on DUS IZ NIES !! Rare View...: Minutes of Jewish Agency Executive Meeting , Jerusalem, May 25, 1944, Proves Rav Weissmandle Wrong!Dusiznieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-88332781235800160012014-12-04T00:18:22.046+02:002014-12-04T00:18:22.046+02:00probably shelly silver or dinapoli who told zalmi&...probably shelly silver or dinapoli who told zalmi's henchmen to send lopez home because dinapoli will have to sign off on any financial settlements with lopez's grope victims so that would be a real political powder keg to be caught on camera with himBar Kamtzanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-79887294331663729422014-12-03T20:43:09.570+02:002014-12-03T20:43:09.570+02:00I guess you don't about it.
Zalmi apparently ...I guess you don't about it.<br /><br />Zalmi apparently invited disgraced menuvol Vito Gropez who helped Satmar, the Catholic Church & the Agudah block the Markey Bill in Albany that would have helped kids abused by molesters.<br /><br />The problem was that all the high ranking Democrats at the chassuna like Tom DiNapoli & Eric Adams were scurrying around like scared ketzelach every time Gropez approached, terrified that someone would take a picture of them with Gropez.<br /><br />So one of Zalmi's shlock shamoshim came over & told Gropez he has to leave.Du shlofst?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-79332563228915522372014-12-03T20:00:59.452+02:002014-12-03T20:00:59.452+02:00You're not reporting on the big story at the c...You're not reporting on the big story at the chassuna that Zalmi made for his daughter?Du shlofst?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-53213604616643483012014-12-03T04:48:24.743+02:002014-12-03T04:48:24.743+02:008:57
Rav Henkin got a copy of the shita that was p...8:57<br />Rav Henkin got a copy of the shita that was published in Jan 1959, that in effect said that Jews have an obligation to help the Arabs give Israel back to the UN..<br />It was called "Chomoseinu"<br />Rav Henkin wrote that he shivered reading that, and said that He himself was against the State, but once it was established every Jew has an obligation to support the State...<br />those that oppose it are "Roidfim and Rashoim.."Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-24831338457656511902014-12-03T03:57:56.776+02:002014-12-03T03:57:56.776+02:00What was the context by Rav Henkin?
(Satmar will ...What was the context by Rav Henkin?<br /><br />(Satmar will probably farentfer that his ayneklach are today all Zionists or secular lol)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-36336302814116704412014-12-03T01:59:20.710+02:002014-12-03T01:59:20.710+02:006:53
I don't think that I'm bashing Satmar...6:53<br />I don't think that I'm bashing Satmar, I'm just pointing out the massive flaws in their shitah.<br />Rav Henkin z"l did a far better job of bashing them, calling them "Rashoim & Roidfim."Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-66585157166181060702014-12-03T01:53:18.231+02:002014-12-03T01:53:18.231+02:00dusiznies- we know you left satmar so you have so...dusiznies- we know you left satmar so you have some kind of satmar complex but calm down. Just prepare that daf hayomi shiur you give instead of wasting your time bashing satmar. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-12850575211904778712014-12-03T00:48:00.603+02:002014-12-03T00:48:00.603+02:00If anyone knows the details of shvartz-Satmar thug...If anyone knows the details of shvartz-Satmar thugs threatening to beat up R' Lazer Silver ztl after he criticized one of their machoyos - that would be interesting.Gangs of NYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-56066999118068279512014-12-03T00:37:25.507+02:002014-12-03T00:37:25.507+02:00When R' Aron Shurin, talmid of the Ponevizher ...When R' Aron Shurin, talmid of the Ponevizher Rov, criticized Satmar, they bombarded him 24 hours a day.<br /><br />And those hooligans even abused R' Moishe Feinstein, but at least in that case the Ruv apologized & made sure it stopped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-34218485169119988202014-12-02T23:01:41.851+02:002014-12-02T23:01:41.851+02:003:07
You're certainly right about those "...3:07<br />You're certainly right about those "crank calls"<br />You can ask the late Kloizenberger Rebbe about that... he knew all about the "crank calls"<br />The Satmar Tzaddikim were very "nice" to the Kloizenberger, they sent him Domino Pizza on Shabbos...<br />All this in the lifetime of the "Tzaddik Hador"<br />Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-77464824198811088342014-12-02T22:29:36.847+02:002014-12-02T22:29:36.847+02:00Anonymous Emes said...
Der rebe un der soṭn : : L...Anonymous Emes said...<br />Der rebe un der soṭn : : Lieberman, Ḥayim<br /><br />https://archive.org/details/nybc214516<br /><br />December 1, 2014 at 11:14 PMEmesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-10251160352252578122014-12-02T22:18:04.970+02:002014-12-02T22:18:04.970+02:00Yeah, "big" score there with Shlomo Katz...Yeah, "big" score there with Shlomo Katz, a stooge of the Theodore Herzl Foundation. Herzl whose uncircumcised children became meshumodim and/or committed suicide. That's some Zionist legacy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-76221885012453973332014-12-02T22:07:56.134+02:002014-12-02T22:07:56.134+02:00Maybe Herman (Chaim) Lieberman was like Derby who ...Maybe Herman (Chaim) Lieberman was like Derby who sees a Satmar co-conspirator under every black hat, after Lieberman was the target of a Satmar crank phone call campaign at all hours of the night in the 1950s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-45960928248490729512014-12-02T19:32:21.672+02:002014-12-02T19:32:21.672+02:0012:12
I'll give you the job to exhume the bodi...12:12<br />I'll give you the job to exhume the bodies and check....<br />the ants may have gotten their first!<br />Ouch!Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-15782539086310198482014-12-02T19:14:32.301+02:002014-12-02T19:14:32.301+02:00בען העכט : דער מענש און זיין ״פארראט״ : אן ענטפער ...בען העכט : דער מענש און זיין ״פארראט״ : אן ענטפער אויף זיין ביטערער אטאקע אויף די גרינדער און פירער פון מדינת ישראל<br /><br />ליבערמאן, חיים. פון חיים ליבערמאן devastating attack on Hecht.. Chaim Lieberman, a member of the editorial staff of the Jewish Daily Forward, went so far as to write a 103 page booklet, commenting on the distortions of history that Hecht published in Perfidy. Lieberman states that Perfidy was “Written with spittle and venom, it is a book in which the great Jewish tragedy is turned into a cheap shocker.” Lieberman goes on to say that “Hecht really has no conception of the true significance either of Zionism of the holocaust [sic]. He is woefully unqualified, morally and spiritually, to penetrate their meaning and mystery.” [4]<br /><br /> From Ben ( I'm not a historian) Hecht's book A Jew in Love:<br /><br />“.....The Jews now and then hatch a face which for Jewishness surpasses the caricatures of the entire anti-Semitic press. These Jew faces in which race leers and burns like some biologic disease are rather shocking to a mongrelized world." Hecht continues on his first page “People dislike being reminded of their origins. They shudder a bit mystically at the sight of anyone who looks too much like a fish, a lizard, a chimpanzee or a Jew.” .....<br /><br />Shlomo Katz, in MIDSTREAM : wrote a review, said “It is an evil book in every sense of the word …. The first reaction to reading Perfidy is one of loathing. ‘Trash!’ one is inclined to exclaim and to fling Ben Hecht’s opus into the nearest garbage can.” Katz concluded “Ben Hecht’s Perfidy … is unique – when one reads it, one feels soiled.” [8]<br /><br /><br /> Derby....<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-29245864706906907072014-12-02T19:12:51.677+02:002014-12-02T19:12:51.677+02:00Well, they say Hecht had bris mila but Herzl didn&...Well, they say Hecht had bris mila but Herzl didn't.Paysach Krohnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-4198028511730087972014-12-02T18:59:23.635+02:002014-12-02T18:59:23.635+02:00Those Anti-Zionist comments are bizarre and crazy!...Those Anti-Zionist comments are bizarre and crazy!<br />They write that the documents of the Jewish Agency are doctored etc etc<br />so we cant trust them<br />and then they take a sworn Zionist Ben Hecht, whose children are goyim and swear by him...<br />So which is it?<br />But some documents were not doctored for example...<br />The Belzer Rebbe's Sefer, that he wrote before escaping to Palestine ,that says that Hitler YM"S will never reach Hungary, and the documents from the Kastner Train that show that The Satmar Rebbe escaped to Switzerland..while telling his flock to stay put, and putting in Cherim a Rav that was warning Jews to leave..<br />Those documents are all here for everyone to read, and all will admit that those documents weren't doctored!<br />Those documents are alive and breathing!<br /><br />Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-62392233410170487862014-12-02T18:52:55.231+02:002014-12-02T18:52:55.231+02:00R' Joel Teitelbaum, rescued by Kastner and his...<br /> R' Joel Teitelbaum, rescued by Kastner and his Vaada Committee<br /> refused to testify at his trial , not even to send a letter of support when beseeched , claiming that it was G-D who saved him.<br /> Kasztner's Train, Anna Porter's book.<br /><br /> Derby.... So it's the K train over there in Willy, Marcy Ave... Thought it was the F train....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-68351154489953477482014-12-02T18:35:27.343+02:002014-12-02T18:35:27.343+02:00JTA---- 1958
The Israel Supreme Court posthumousl...JTA---- 1958<br /><br />The Israel Supreme Court posthumously cleared Dr. Israel Kastner today of collaboration with the Nazis in his negotiations to save Jews in German-occupied Hungary during the late World War. The majority opinion, which was read out in court all day today, is expected to take three days to read to completion, after which the minority report will be heard.<br />Granting that Dr. Kastner’s negotiations with Eichmann for the release of 100,000 Hungarian Jews against the payment of $2,000,000 was "patently immoral," Justice Agranat held that it was "unreasonable to adopt a technical attitude toward such an act when so much was at stake. " He said the lower court had the advantage of hindsight information which Dr. Kastner, under the existing circumstances and in the atmosphere of hopelessness of Hungarian Jewry, could not have known.<br /><br />The Supreme Court held that collaboration required intent and than an analysis of the Gruenwald trial record did not support the contention that Dr. Kastner’s acts were part of a deliberate plot. It called Judge Halevy’s reasoning and conclusions "unfounded."<br /><br />Center for Israel Education, 1958 ;<br /><br />The 1955 judgement was overturned by a majority of 3 to 2. Chief Justice Shimon Agranat declared that, “Dr. Kastner never wanted to annihilate the Jews, the opposite is true.” <br /><br /><br /> Back and forth??<br /><br />Stick to what you know: <br />TRAINS....especially from Budapest to Switzerland ...Then to Marcy Ave. Williamsburgh.<br /><br /> DerbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-27908496907219504582014-12-02T18:34:35.849+02:002014-12-02T18:34:35.849+02:00It's interesting how the anti-Jewish Satmars c...It's interesting how the anti-Jewish Satmars change with the wind...<br />They scream that Herzl was an assimilated Jew so we can't trust him...<br />But Ben Hecht was married twice, each time to a Shiksa! And they trust him!<br /><br />Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-551098868831030792014-12-02T18:13:07.364+02:002014-12-02T18:13:07.364+02:00Commentary is the rag of the Conservative movement...Commentary is the rag of the Conservative movement but even if they are trying to be honest, maybe Brand was trying to cover up that he was cuckolded by Kasztner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-44784817710132375442014-12-02T18:09:01.366+02:002014-12-02T18:09:01.366+02:00Due to awkward language in a historical source, I ...Due to awkward language in a historical source, I mistakenly mixed up which parts of Kasztner's sentence were upheld.<br /><br />It was upheld 5-0 that Kasztner covered up for Nazi war criminal Kurt Becher.<br /><br />Notice how when Derby cuts & pastes from Wiki, he leaves out this damning statement on Kasztner from Supreme Court Justice Moshe Silberg who disagreed with acquittal on historical and moral grounds:<br /><br />"We can sum up with these three facts: That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt — "Second Warsaw" — nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from the very best source — Eichmann himself ... That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance wheel or the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming murder ... That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses."<br /><br />This is Derby in a nutshell: Satmar and any of their supposed malaga slogging yeshivish associates are guilty as sin but Zionist Nazi collaborator Kasztner gets a free pass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-69207592145386709762014-12-02T18:02:48.893+02:002014-12-02T18:02:48.893+02:00Commentary magazine, by Lucy Davidowicz
.....Hech...Commentary magazine, by Lucy Davidowicz<br /><br />.....Hecht is just as partisanly political as the people he accuses of partisan politics. The Kastner case was conducted in this spirit, and even Joel Brand finally realized it. Withdrawing earlier accusations of treachery against Sharett and Weizmann which Tamir had wrung from him, Brand cried out that Tamir wanted “to help one party by exploiting the spilt blood of the Jews.”<br /><br />This is precisely what Ben Hecht has done. Underplaying the German murder of six million Jews, with the active collaboration of Poles, Ukrainians, Baits, Hungarians, and Rumanians, he overplays the British and American failure to provide haven for the Jews or to undertake some effective military action to stop the operations of the gas chambers. Finally, he ascribes to the Jewish Agency the greatest crime of all—of having acquiesced in the partition of Palestine on British terms, and betrayed the Irgun’s dream of a Greater Palestine.<br /><br />Hecht exploits the mistakes, the fears, the timidities and stupidities, the political bickerings among the Zionists, and indeed among all the Jewish organizations during the holocaust, in order to disgrace Mapai and the Jewish Agency and to glorify the Revisionist movement. He has converted ideological differences into savage personal defamation, and equated Zionist mistakes and expediency with German murder.....<br /><br /><br /> Just a sample of many, many critiques of the suddenly newly born "Jewish" fiction Hollywood playwright writer Ben ( I'm not an historian" Hecht..<br /><br /> But as I said, I'm done fighting BS..<br /><br /> DerbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-38612840482976097892014-12-02T17:30:20.229+02:002014-12-02T17:30:20.229+02:00"....What Derby conveniently omits is that al..."....What Derby conveniently omits is that all 5 Israel Supreme Court justices on appeal agreed with the lower court judge that Kasztner was guilty of indirect genocide and 4 of 5 justices agreed Kasztner was an actual Nazi collaborator....."<br /><br /> Not True, Doctor... Why you be a DR.? Read on for answer, please.<br /><br /><br />----The Supreme Court of Israel overturned most of the judgment against Kastner in 1958. The judges overturned the first count by 3–2 and the second count by 5–0. The longest majority decision was written by Judge Shimon Agranat, who said:<br /><br />1.During that period Kastner was motivated by the sole motive of saving Hungary's Jews as a whole, that is, the largest possible number under the circumstances of time and place as he estimated could be saved.<br />2.This motive fitted the moral duty of rescue to which he was subordinated as a leader of the Relief and Rescue Committee in Budapest.<br />3.Influenced by this motive he adopted the method of financial or economic negotiation with the Nazis.<br />4.Kastner's behavior stands the test of plausibility and reasonableness.<br />5.His behavior during his visit to Cluj (on May 3) and afterwards, both its active aspect (the plan of the "prominents") and its passive aspect (withholding the "Auschwitz news" and lack of encouragement for acts of resistance and escape on a large scale) – is in line with his loyalty to the method which he considered, at all important times, to be the only chance of rescue.<br />6.Therefore one cannot find a moral fault in his behavior, one cannot discover a causal connection between it and the easing of the concentration and deportation, one cannot see it as becoming a collaboration with the Nazis.[40]-------<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Derby .... Don't make up stuff, don't pull out of context. Don't revise . <br />I'm not gonna respond to BS anymore, so don't read my lack of comments as admission or agreement with said BS...<br /> You have an advanced degree... As my prof once said:<br /> BS= Bull shit<br /> MS= More of the same<br /> PHD= Piled higher and deeper..<br /> Do you hear , Herr Dukktor ??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-38456285065727882072014-12-02T17:20:41.451+02:002014-12-02T17:20:41.451+02:00Unlike so many of you,I don't drink anybody... Unlike so many of you,I don't drink anybody's Kool-Aid, so though I admired Kahane, I don't agree with everything he said. Begin was also an Irgunist and implacable foe of BG and Labor. Liked him too, but don't lap dog to him either. Don't drink anyone's malaga like you and don't robot- shuckel like you either.<br /> Not an IOTA of evidence that Mapai leaders collaborated with British or anybody to detain Brand. All hocus-pocus. Not a scintilla of evidence, just accusation after accusation.<br /> Not I, but all major historians , including Lucy Dawidowitz , and even the Yiddish, orthodox writer for the Forvaertz, Lieberman destroyed Hecht. Altalena affair was not pretty, but Begin & co. wanted to keep the ammo to themselves and not share it with the nascent state. It's not as B&W as you guys want us to believe....Begin himself , years later, wanted BG in his gov't and was ready to forgive and forget.. All these are side red-herring issues to throw crap on Zionists just because you don't like them..<br /> So you pick the Zionists you want to use vs. those you don't like..... eating salami with pot cheese...<br /><br /> Derby... Oh... Did I mention that no evidence EVER surfaced to link Mapai to collaboration...?<br /> End of story.... Have a great day...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com