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Tuesday, January 6, 2015

Straightforward Arab Message, Convoluted Jewish Answers


The main Arab message is clear and simple and everyone can quickly understand it:

     We Palestinians are the indigenous people of Palestine who have enjoyed a peaceful life in our country for millennia. We worked hard and promoted freedom and equality for all. Our country was invaded by the evil Jewish colonizers who were supported by the British imperialists. They killed many of our people and stole our beloved land of Palestine.  Now they exploit us and occupy our land.  We are fighting for freedom from the evil Zionists Jews.  The Jews kill our mothers and our brothers and practice apartheid and holocaust upon us.  The world must help us since Jews are so strong!

Yes, this is a powerful message.  It is very moving and

 cries out for a response from all decent people. 

It is also a complete LIE!

What is the response of the Israeli Jews to above slanders?
“This is complicated,” the Jews say.  “We respect Arab concerns, but we also have the right to be here.  We believe in their right to have a state, but we have security needs.  If we abandon the settlements and move back to the 1967 lines, our coastal plain will be endangered, etc.”  The convoluted message goes on and on.  Our message amounts to many volumes of tightly typewritten text.  One must read it all to understand what we Jews mean.

Any sane person will have a similar response;
“I don’t have time to read the many thick volumes of Jewish explanations.  Arabs clearly are the victims here.  Jews are trying to hide and obfuscate something and talk us to death.  My dear Jews, stop this nonsense and give back to the Arabs their freedom and their land.  Quit with the lame excuses.  Enough is enough.”

Even a significant number of Jews buy into the Arab narrative despite it being a total fabrication.  I have met many Jews who repeat the Arab disinformation in good faith.

Israel has to develop its message to be as clear and simple to comprehend as the Arab have done. 

We have to learn from our enemies when their tactics are effective.  I do not propose that we lie like they do.  

Just tell the truth in clear cut, simple terms:
Jews are from Judea; 
Arabs are from Arabia.  
The Jews are the indigenous people of this land
Arabs are the colonizers.  

We are the people of Judea, Samaria, Jerusalem, Galilee and Golan.  We have been invaded by the Greeks, the Romans, the Arabs and the Crusaders, but our link to the land has never been broken. We have resided without interruption in this land for over three thousand years.  We have built the cities and every square meter holds archaeological remains from our ancient kingdoms. During the two thousand years when most Jews lived in exile, we never forgot where we came from.  This was, is, and will be our nation’s sacred land forever. 

Meanwhile, there never existed an Arab Palestinian nation or a country.  It is a complete hoax.  There never was a Palestinian Arab king of this land; there were no famous Palestinian poets, philosophers, generals; no distinct language, no architecture, no inventions, no battles, indeed, no mention of the “Palestinian” Arab people in any history book written before 1960.  

Arabs from neighboring countries started immigrating into Palestine in late 19th century to take advantage of the infrastructure and jobs created by the newly invigorated Jewish people.  They came for the same reasons that Mexicans cross the border into the U.S. and that Muslims have flocked to Europe. They came in great numbers seeking a better life than in their Arab lands.

During these years the Arabs dwelling in Israel were simply “Arabs” and, when the term “Palestinian” was used, it always referred to the Jews!  

The “Palestinian people” were invented in the 1960s for Cold War purposes by the Soviet communists.  The Arabs residing in Israel began to pass themselves off as the ancient native peoples of this land.  

They invented the name, “The West Bank,” for our provinces of Judea and Samaria.  

Today they even claim that Jesus was a Palestinian prophet and that the Jews never lived in this land.  

They have developed this pseudo-history to dupe the world into believing that their racist terror campaign against the Jews is a national liberation struggle!

The Arabs’ genocidal military assaults on the Jewish state failed repeatedly, so today they are using propaganda and diplomatic shenanigans in their efforts to destroy us.  The Arabs have the power of huge territory and oil money, but we have truth on our side.  

We live in our homeland, and only we have a legitimate claim to this land—legally, morally, and historically.  We will never let Arab squatters and impostors steal our birthright.  As people of good will around the world learn the truth, they will stand with the people of Israel.

This should be our Jewish message. 

I hope that when our PM visits Europe and explains the situation, he will go beyond raising just the security issues.  This is a message that even our European friends should be able to understand, since they are witnessing a replay of the same scenarios in their countries.  

Arriving as poor immigrants looking for jobs, just like in Palestine, once their numbers grow, radical Muslims take control and seek to impose their worldview and values wherever they live. 

 From Berlin to Barcelona, from Marseilles to Malmo, from Amsterdam to Athens they sow intolerance and hatred toward their host nations. They impose their sharia laws, homophobia and ill-treatment of women.  

Will Europeans be surprised when Arab Muslims start claiming that they alone are the native inhabitants of these lands?  After all, they have gained experience and expertise in creating alternate realities during their aggression against the indigenous peoples of Israel.

by
David Grynglas
  
The writer is a pro-Israeli activist and engineer living in San Jose, California, whose family emigrated to the US from Warsaw over forty years ago.. My family of Polish Jews came to America from Warsaw, Poland over forty years ago.

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is a 'MAJOR very MAJOR' flaw in this argument, and that is, that JEWS have no right, and no claim for ERETZ YISROEL, until HKBH himself with his wisdom will so decide, we may live in EY, but we may NOT have an own government.

Anonymous said...

#1 f you and the satmar horse you rode in on.

Dusiznies said...

12:56
Hey! when you drop dead, are they taking you to the State of Israel or the Farshtinkina tumedika land of Monroe
BTW I"m not the one saying that USA land is Tumeh. The Heiliger Rebbe der Vyoel Moshe Z"L said that!

Anonymous said...

HKB SPOKE:

1) Through the Balfour Declaration
2) League of Nations
3 )United Nations
4) Woodrow Wilson, President of the United States of America

5) Harry Truman, President of the United States of America

6) Even the USSR with Stalin

7) Even Anwar Sadat

8) Rabbonim, last and not least...



Just as HE spoke :
Through Koresh, called the Moshiach by most meforshim.

The Bas Kol reverberated.. Some didn't hear it nor heed it...
Tough...

Derby..... Aschalte d'gulah, folks....

Anonymous said...

12:56.... Since Vasikin, you haven't yet opened sefer... Now's a good time.... You're late 65 years and a day..... Fold it up, mahn!.... You lost... the State is a reality.... HKB gave it to us right after the Holocaust... EVERYBODY but you guys, sees it... Don't fret too much... Wash away your angst and bitterness with some Smirnoff & Wild Turkey...I see you had some already, 'cause your breath be kickin' mahn!... Check your SHYT'tlee in at the nearest latrine...

Ciao...

Derby

Anonymous said...

HKBH speaks through the TORA HAKDOSHA, not through anything else, VAYITEN LAHEM ARTZOS GOYIM BAAVUR YISHMERU CHUKAV VETHOROSAV YINTZORU, UMIPNEI CHATOEINU GAALINU MEIARTZEINU. He definitely doesn't give us EY so that yidden should pass Chukos Toeivos.

Anonymous said...

" Ki Lo Betzidkosch " will you inherit this land, says my Torah in Chumash and again for the geulah asideh, in Yechezkel, I believe...

HKB speaks in the Torah & to humans....
Tana Devei Eliyahu.... " I swear , that everybody can get Ruach Hakodesh, even a shifcha, even a non-Jew.." Now go argue with that... In the Shabbos zmiros sefer SHIRIM SHEL SHABBOS, it says it right at the Friday night Kiddush, at the bottom of the page... Check it out...
HKB speaks through anything HE wants... including birds ( especially birds), trees and anything else.... You need eyes to see and ears to hear... And THAT is all part of the Torah...
Azneyim lohem v'lo......


Rabbanit Tammy Kol Toov...

Anonymous said...

Ki Lo Betzidkoscho .... Correction..

Anonymous said...

KI LO BETZIDKOSCHA UBYOSHER LEVAVCHA HASHEM ELOKECHA MORISH OSAM MIPANECHE, "KI UM BERISHAAS HAGOYIM"....., as customary these 2 falsifier's cut paste omit delete, pasukim gemaras, halachos, whatever, to fit their deios kozvos, the pasuk says "lo betzitkoscha" "ki um berishaas hagoyim", telling us that even if the yiden arent tzadikim (but also not reshayim) and the goyim are reshayim, (and we get an explicit nevuah thereof by hkbh) then hkbh allows us to have EY, but unfortunately the situation in the middle east now is just the opposite, in the Zima state of izrael, GAYS are legally condoned and sanctioned, Tznius is ILLEGAL, whereas in the Arab world Modesty reigns, in the latest dispatch from an Arab airline, they said that Seating and personnel will be Gender Seperated. So actually the Arabs fit the Toras Scrip more perfectly then the Zionist state. But of course you never ever quote a Pasuk or Gemara in whole, just snips and pieces, in order to facilitate your Deyos Kozvos, you might as well quote the pasuk in krias shema "Vaavadetem Elohim Acherim", to validate the thousands tens of thousands of Izraeli youths that go to India and believe in Krishna, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHNA.

Anonymous said...

what flavor is the satmar kool-aid? it must be delicious cause these loonies cant get enough of the bullshit.

Dusiznies said...

4:01
You very very bad man! No soup for you!
Very very bad man!

Bla bla bla "HARE HARE< HARE KRISHNA"
bla bla bla "GAYS" bla bla
"ILLEGAL" ploider zak, bla bla
"cut and paste" bla bla bal

Hey 4:01
i'm impressed that you learned a new word...."believe"
very good ...
now say this very slowly:
"I'm a meshigenir"

Anonymous said...

As usual, when cornered, which is much more often than not, revert to cursing, belittling, cheap leitzanus, ugly gutter language, in order to change the subject matter, and perhaps SOMEONE at least SOMEONE might forget that you have NO inkling of the subject being debated, however we'll keep hammering away relentlessly, HKBH is SONA ZIMAH, ZIONISM CONDONES and PROTECTS ZIMAH, the TORA REQUIRES TZNIUS, ZIONISM passes LAWS AGAINST TZNIUS, its a tremendous CHILUL HASHEM, that the SO CALLED JEWISH state, is far far behind the ARABS who basically are baalei zima in nature, still the ZIONIST state which is composed mostly of people who have the jewish DNA, behave like the GERUIM SHEBEUMOS!!!! And then you say that's what HKBH wants? AFRA LEPUMA, there aren't enough suits in Barney's to tear KRUA when reading or hearing such utter BLASPHEMY.

Anonymous said...

Sure you are a bad man, don't you realize by now that derby, and the blogger are uneducable unmannered uncivilized sore losers, and especially so when put in a spot, HOW DARE YOU PUT FORTH SUCH LOGICAL and TRUE FACTS, that TOTALLY DEMONSTRATE the ZIONIST ZIMA, HOW DARE YOU TO TOTALLY DEMOLISH their WHOLE CONCEPT, have you no heart? Where's your Rachmanus? Proving without doubt, what this MALCHUS HARISHAH is all about, Klal Yisroel would be much better off without, OK enough with leitzanusa DaAVODA ZARA, Zionisim from its cradle days had one purpose, To SEPARATE AAM YISROEL from HKBH, what that original POSHEI YISROEL didn't succeed in accomplishing, his loyal followers are trying to finish, AAM YISROEL is got to be a AAM KADOSH, that means NO LGBT, NOT SANCTIONING GAY RIGHTS or PARADES, and the list goes on.

Dusiznies said...

6:33
You scribble:
"AAM KADOSH, that means NO LGBT, NOT SANCTIONING GAY RIGHTS or PARADES,"
So how come your Satmar leaders endorse LGBT candidates?
Didn't your rebbe's son from Monroe host a politician in his house last week, that endorses LGBT and abortions?
You hypocrite ....
When your Rebbe, whose own father, the Beirach Moshe, called a "naar"
endorses anti-Torah candidates ... that's ok
Im in middle of composing an article exposing R' Aaron and his son ...endorsing candidates that have anti_Torah ethics!
He is just like the Zionists, they both endorse the Gay lifestyle!

I can't wait to see you blabber your way out of that!

Just because Aron eats herring and refuses to give Shrayim from that, because he doesn't want to share that with anybody, that still doesn't make him a chachem!My grandchild also refuses to share his herring!

Anonymous said...

You guys here definitely have a brand new tora, I guess its the ZIONIST version, identical to the new testament, where you choose whichever and whatever to satisfy your palate, ZOS HATORAH LO TEHEI MUCHLEFES VELO THEHEI TORAH ACHERES MEAIS HABORA YISBARUCH SHEMO. PERIOD. ZIONISIM And ZIMA go hand in hand, you can't separate these two, just like identical twins, Zionisim was founded by a Ocher Yisroel whose ultimate plan was for klal Yisroel to enter St. Patrick's cathedral and exit from there as converted Catholics, he failed doing that, maybe Klal Yisroel would've been better off, because then most Jews would not have agreed doing that, however his followers are selling the same garbage but with a veil of supposedly jewdaism, unfortunately they're having some measure of success, especially concerning the new arrivals who themselves know nothing of yiddishkeit, however BH most religious observant Jews realize that Zionisim is NOT JUDAISM, ZIONISTS DO NOT REPRESENT the JEWISH PEOPLE.

Anonymous said...

Listen Seymour...

You guys should've made Aliya , you didn't. You can still make Aliya in droves, you won't.. So stop whining & bitching..
You're the ultimate loony, unrealistic, and by now... a sad, old, hoarse papagei has-been, re-maleh geire'ing the same kefira , over & over...
So go off into the night with your buddy clergymen, whoop it up in the maarik, slurp gallons of Stolychnaya and Russian glue, American shoe polish with alcohol, and soda CRACKers.
I've nothing more to say to you,windbag !!!!
Any proof to your chronically insane "mind" begets the usual " you're cornered.... Sideways... " psychosis/ dementia ...

So what's the use ??

Every time you excreted your tzoiye.. I quoted you in context and challenged you successfully.... There's nothing more one can do with a diseased madman...

All in all, I've shown that you are the following:
1) Liar
2) Hypocrite
3) Fanatical, illogical madman
4) Collector of ZIMA tidbits about rebbetzins & Rebbes
5) shuckling robot automaton
6) Rambling Internet junkie in defiance of your rabbi
7)Vasikin chumrak, but bittul Torah kal
8)Hater of Jews
9) Nivel Pee/Poo curser of religious Zionist rabbis
10) ALL of THE ABOVE...!!!!!!

Now bug off, you annoying sick insect...


From all of us:
Derby & Friends .... Partners in enjoying an exciting and miraculous Zionist reality and thanking Hashem for it.... What a miracle...!!!

Cheers...........
Oh, did we mention liar & Zima collecter??? Checking on rebbetzin gatkes??? We did... !!!

Anonymous said...

Tante Jenny & his Kapelye here:
Say doc, you rang???
Oh, ok... You say we should try music??? It heals the insane??.... Oh, ok...
Soft stuff ?? Oh, ok doc.

Ok, Bande.... !!
Start with Amapola, then segue into El Choclo, then Waltzing Matilde , Theme of the Puppets , A Shikker's Lament, MUN's RO'ses, ZEEMA's Zlotys, and finally...... An Ode to Mamma, in Bb minor..

For encore:
New composition plagiarized from lusting, panting pants & blouse canoodler, titled:

" leitzanusa DaAVODA ZARA"

ah one... ah two...

Anonymous said...

Tante here;
Doc.... Doc..!!!
It ain't working... His mind is always on the same thing...

All he babbles about is something called Toeva, Zima Pants, Gatches.... Gatkes, Zima, Toeva, pants, Sorbonne Gatches, Zima, Toevah, Toevah, Toevah, gatkes, Rebbe' & sex life... Toevah, Gatkes, Gatches, Zima, Rebbetzin...


OK,, OK....
Take your Bande and get the heck out before we all go insane... !!! Get out.. !! Get out... Shaddapp already..

Gatches, rebbertzin, pants, Toevah, toevah, toevah, toevah,Tziyoni, Tziyoni, Tziyoni, Tziyoni, Zima, Zeema, Zeema, Toevah, Sorbonne, Mamzer heter, yemach shmo,,,, Shen reshaim yirk..... OK OK... Get out...!!! Get Out... !!!
HELLO...????!!!! 911 please.

Anonymous said...

Derby (the ferd) GUT GEZUGT, of course you're right to demand that the one and only person whose comments make a lot of sense, should get off this third rate blog, there's no place here for someone whose both ehrlich and sensible, why, I fully understand your dilemma, being proven as a mental basket case, it sure ain't feeli'n comfortable, how many wads of spittle does it take for a foolish idiot, to finally realize that it's not rain, only a present for his virtuous accomplishments, by now we're quite sure you got the message, what your standing is with the visitors to this blog, in that case being that your LOST, OVAAD EITZOS, after trying everything, trying hard, LEITZANUS, NIVUL PEH, CHANGING the subjects, LYING, DELETING etc etc, you're singing a NEW TUNE, in desperation, we honest ehrlich yidden should leave this blog, !!!! I must say you're very original, good thinking, a gute kup, we think you should apply and get a patent, a trademark, sell it to the highest bidder, its worth Millions......

vafsi ode said...

When you say "The Palestinians aren't a people," do you really mean "The Palestinians aren't people"?

this is a sad but true point, it is the story's we tell ourselves about our identity that make us human, when a person refuses to grant legitimacy to someone's narrative they are essentially dehumanizing that person (the only case that it is acceptable to do that is were the story he is telling allows the dehumanization of others)

Anonymous said...

The dayos kozvos, lying, megaleh ponim Batorah, mevazeh & mekalel of holy rabbonim, evading my challenges, insanity, lunacy,sineh of EY, cutting & pasting ..... are all yours.... You own them...


Derby....
Unless one quotes the entire Torah shbichsav, one cuts & pastes.... Shas, meforshim, speakers, columnists, you, me , Moishe Pipik, Chaim Yankel... ALL cut & paste... This simple logical fact is hidden from this deluded madman, because my proofs challenge his meraglim propaganda..

Anonymous said...

Why don't you answer my question, accusation, Is this MEDINA Hatemeia what HKBH promised to his beloved children? Where LGBT are condoned legitimized sanctioned legalized ? Is this the Tzivos Hashem, HKBH's Army, where GILUY ARAYOS is a way of life, where Znus and ZIMAH are encouraged, nay Enforced, can a normal Jew say that through these Noafim, HKBH makes miracles? Vehakatuv Tzavach, VELO YIREH BECHA ERVAS DAVAR VESHAV MEACHARECHA.

Anonymous said...

"....Zionisim was founded by a Ocher Yisroel whose ultimate plan was for klal Yisroel to enter St. Patrick's cathedral and exit from there as converted Catholics....."

You're scribbling about the great Binyamin Zev Herzl OB"M...

Ya.... As everyone knows, he wasn't brought up frum and did a full tshuvah on that, and even wrote a letter about the beauty of Chanukah amnong other things..

Duzn't matter.... Listen Seymour...
What I'll do for you is this:

Not to disturb your limud Torah, but if you have 15 minutes, I'll "cut & paste" a long list of the Ravs, Rabbonim, rebbes whose offspring became OTD's non-frum , Protestants, Catholics .... VERY PROMINENT gedolei Yisroel whose children shmad themselves & who knew Yiddishkeit better than Herzl.......
Bottom line is that it's an inyan of bechira for the religious kids, not the parents' fault.... Nobody can be sure about their children. Al achas kama v'kama for a Herzl who knew next to nothing..

Don't tempt me, ben Zonah.... I'm researching the list & will bring it into your "neighborhood "too...

Still waiting for PRIMARY SOURCES that frum Jews did something , anything special for the pogromed & murdered Jews from 1881 an on, other than Herzl, R' Mohiliver, Nissenbaum & of course other pro-Zionist rabbonim, Jabotinsky, etc, etc...


Show us a document of any fast day, yom tefillah, etc etc.. by any orthodox rav or kehila.....


Tammy Kol Toov, Maharat in waiting....
Does he always say "Ehrliche Yidden" ? Learn how to spell, ben Ferdellina...

It's GEFEHRLICHE YIDDEN..


My list of shmads'lonim is 'a 'comin soon....


Anonymous said...

".....GILUY ARAYOS is a way of life, where Znus and ZIMAH are encouraged,...."

911..... HURRY...!!!!! He's back again...


Zima, Zeemah, Zionism, pants,mamzer heter, sex, sex, sex, Zima, Zeeemah...Sorbonne, Znus, rebbetzin pants, Munkatch, Sorbonne, Zero Zali..... gatches, gatyes, gatcheeois.... HELP.... HELP.....Toeva, Toeva, HELP....!!!!!!!!!!!!!




L'chol Hapoochis auf Tz'loochiss..... QUICK.... QUICK....

Anonymous said...

Just keep on making a fool of yourself. By now you 2 morons are the only ones who are Keshuro Bo Kekelev'.

Anonymous said...

"....Why don't you answer my question, accusation, Is this MEDINA Hatemei... "
Here's the answer;
He promised & delivered a Medinah..... YOU & YOUR SHYTTA refused to make Alya and make it Kodosh & tohor... YOU REFUSED.... The people there are descendants of those who gave their lives & blood to sacrifice for this Medinah.... They were mostly not frum... YOU had a chance to make it frum.... You DIDN"T... You WILL give a din vecheshbon for it.... Meanwhile, look at the good. Don't be a tamei Ra'aa bird who only sees carcass in EY....


HKB wanted YOU to settle in EY and make it Shabbosdig,.... etc.... YOU REFUSED....!!!!!!
' Every time your Aron in MUnn' rrro opens his filthy trap to hurt victims
families of the murdered, is another din vecheshbon he'll give.... Drop him like a hot charah.... Drop him... Make Aliya... Take thousands along and change the political & religious landscape and prepare for Moshiach.... Stop the Bitchin' already.... Enufff !!!!



Rabbanit Kol Toov
That's the answer.... NOW stop bitching.....

Anonymous said...

We rest our case, AAL TAAN KESYL KEUVALTO, CHAZAL GUIDE US, APIKORUS KOL SHEKEIN DEPUKAR TEFEI.

Anonymous said...

Na'areleh Teitelbaum, the biggest waste of sperm in Monroe. And people actually respect this drek.

Anonymous said...

Aal taan Kesil Keuvalto, Apikorsus kol shekein depukar tefei.